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Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:21 am
CovOps wrote:
Brook offers the following explanation:
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I think that the libertarians who tend to be anti-Israel tend to be in the [Murray Rothbard wing] of the libertarian movement. They tend to be anarchists. They tend to have a deep rooted hatred of government. And it’s interesting [because] they tend to hate free governments more than they hate totalitarian governments. They tend to focus their hatred much more on the American government [and] on the Israeli government than they do on Hamas. If you’re libertarian, that is if you claim to care about individual liberty, Hamas should be one of the top most hated regimes in the world. You should be celebrating that they are being destroyed and that the Palestinian people might have a chance to be freed from such a totalitarian evil regime like Hamas is. And yet, libertarians don’t seem to care about the Hamas government, or actually support it, and they focus all their ire [and] all their hatred [and] all their focus on the Israeli government, a government that is in relative terms a rights respecting government, at least as rights respecting as any Western government. Essentially there’s free speech in Israel. There’s freedom of contract. There’s private property, not as much private property as those of us who believe in liberty would like, but much much better than 90% of the countries in the world.
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:37 am
This one is for FigaroFatz, as he's addicted to eulogizing that retard Reagan:
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At the same time, Gillespie was unimpressed by Ronald Reagan, who declared a new “war on drugs,” raised the national drinking age to 21, raised all sorts of taxes, preserved Social Security which Gillespie regards as federally mandated generational theft) and in general claimed to champion American individualism while squashing it every chance he got. “I was never conservative,” he told me as we sipped our gin. “Republicans always saw libertarians as nice to have around in case they wanted to score some weed, and we always knew where there was a party. And for a while it made sense to bunk up with them. But after a while, it would be like, ‘So if we agree on limited government, how about opening the borders?’ No, that’s crazy. ‘How about legalizing drugs? How about giving gays equal rights?’ No, come on, be serious. And so I thought, There’s nothing in this for me.”
Submitted by gregster on Thu, 2014-08-14 09:12. The pieces of shit running most of the world won't do much to help. Israel should take out Iran and Pakistan, and keep shredding through the maggots, but then it would be attacked for being the good. The English pollies have revealed their true shit selves by banning weapons to Israel. I don't see good times ahead.
Iran ended 2013 with a population of 77,447,168 people, which represents an increasea of 1,022,725 people compared to 2012.
Pakistan is sixth most populous country in the world with an estimated population of 184.35 million in 2012-2013. The growth rate of population during 2012-2013 is 2.0 percent. Turning hundreds of millions of people into overnight enemies, doesn't sound like a winning formula... but hey, that's RandRoids for ya...
What is Orthodox Objectivism? Originator: Leonard Peikoff Examples: Binswanger, peikoff, Schwartz Group: Ayn Rand Institute Closed system
Insistence that they are the only true objectivists Excommunication and silencing of dissent (Brandens, riesman, Kelly, caskey, harriman,) "Vulgar libertarians" American Nationalism Israel (calling a socialist country a free country) Socially conservative (transgenders[peikoff], gays[rand]) Individual rights: (rights as conditions of human survival, but "savages" have no rights?) Snowden (Binswanger, Schwartz) Advocate War (Iraq, Iran) Ally with conservatives (heartland institute, PJTV, AEI)
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:35 am
Despite all the evidence to the contrary, Objectivists still sing from the same hymn-fantasy:
Police Morally Must Protect, Not Violate Rights
As an indicator of how far removed some police officers in America are from the principle that government’s only moral function is to protect people’s rights, consider the remarks of Sunil Dutta from his August 19 op-ed in the Washington Post. Dutta, an officer with the Los Angeles Police Department and a professor of homeland security at Colorado Tech University, wrote:
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f you don’t want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground, just do what I tell you. Don’t argue with me, don’t call me names, don’t tell me that I can’t stop you, don’t say I’m a racist pig, don’t threaten that you’ll sue me and take away my badge. Don’t scream at me that you pay my salary, and don’t even think of aggressively walking towards me.
Dutta improperly packages together arguing or name calling with physically aggressive behavior; obviously those things are not remotely comparable. Although he may not have intended the implication, Dutta suggests here that a police officer is justified in using deadly force against a person merely because the person verbally challenges the officer’s instructions. Dutta describes perfectly the attitude of the government-paid thugs of any police state.
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:01 am
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Show some empathy for an officer’s safety concerns.
That's the officer's job, not ours. He should have chosen another line of work, if he has 'safety concerns'. Like basket-weaving at a sheltered workshop...
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:03 am
How low can FigaroFatz go? Now training professional statist murderer:
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Submitted by Lindsay Perigo on Mon, 2014-10-13 10:03.
I was very fortunate to be recommended to Lindsay by my mother, who knew I needed help with my speech, confidence and verbal presentation. Her faith in Lindsay was well placed - he has helped me considerably improve my verbal projection and really opened my eyes to the importance of one's voice. Prior to seeing him, I had completely underestimated how much your speech can affect your interactions with others, and how the lack of a developed voice can be a major hindrance. Luckily for me, my lessons really seem to have paid off, and I am currently up to the last stage of becoming an Army Officer, after passing the interview with flying colours. I also grabbed a competitive part-time job along the way, out of a pool of around 100 candidates. Thanks Lindsay! —George Green (aged 21), October 12, 2014
Submitted by Kyrel Zantonavitch on Thu, 2014-10-16 14:03. Lindsay -- What makes most Objectivists "rubbish," in your view? My quick answer would be almost all Objectivists fall into two unfortunate categories: (1) religious and cultist ARI-types who are unhealthy, weird, malicious, and basically zombie-like; and (2) semi-unprincipled, sissified, weak TAS-types who lack dynamism, vivacity, and heroism. Both strike me as pseudo-Objectivist. Even Ayn Rand was thus, during those times when she was busy excommunicating true friends and allies, or else forbidding free and robust discussion and debate.
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:57 am
LOL, 10 days after Kyrel posted a question to FigaroFatz, he descended from his podium to reply, LOL:
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Submitted by Lindsay Perigo on Sun, 2014-10-26 21:03. I was thinking less of the kind of divide: bigots vs KASSless etc.—that has been rehearsed here often enough, and more of the utter lack of a spirit of solidarity among Objectivists; of the infantile disorder whereby the emotionally stunted parade a preposterous degree of self-absorption and think that's what Objectivism means by "egoism" and "self-esteem." Such infants are of no use when it comes to the quest for a better culture, which requires a focus on things outside—horreurs!—oneself; they cannot even take themselves to a movie called Atlas Shrugged!
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Sat Nov 01, 2014 4:30 am
LOLOLOLOL:
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Submitted by Kyrel Zantonavitch on Fri, 2014-10-31 15:09. Lindsay -- I met ARI writer and 'Objectivist' Don Watkins about 10 days ago, and showed him a ton of solidarity. It wasn't returned. He wanted to walk away from me, and have nothing whatsoever to do with me. He told me ARIan "excommunication" doesn't exist -- then he excommunicated me.
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:58 am
Despite reality to the contrary, some Objectivists remain blinded by their totally useless dogma:
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Immigration Dictator
Submitted by Kyrel Zantonavitch on Thu, 2014-11-20 02:17 On November 20th, 2014, Lawbreaker-in-Chief Barack Obama is going to exercise profound legal power he doesn't have. He's going to assert massive governmental authority he lacks. This is the act of a criminal and tyrant. For this he should be immediately removed from office and jailed for life. The powers of the American federal government are limited and enumerated. The executive powers are far more so. The Constitution spells them out. Immigration law in the United States is made by the legislature. All federal laws in the United States are made by the legislature. The President has no genuine or legitimate ability to enact, repeal, or alter any law. Indeed, it's the job of the executive branch of the government to enforce the laws passed by the Congress: to see to it that they're followed by all, and faithfully, properly carried out. This is so whether or not the executive branch agrees with the legislative branch or not. The law is the law. And America is a nation ruled by law -- not by men. The chief law is the Constitution. When the chief executive is sworn into office he vows a sacred oath not to improve the country, nor to serve the people, but to "preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States."
Submitted by Lindsay Perigo on Tue, 2014-12-09 07:03. As noted on Kyrel's thread:
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One of the cleverest con-men ever. Glib and plausible to a fault. On the level? Not remotely. Ayn Rand's biggest mistake, with no other mistake coming close. Guilty of all the things he accused her of, including intellectual bullying. Told Tibor Machan their friendship would be over if Tibor kept posting on SOLO. An ignoble liar, whose systematic, conscientious deceitfulness screams from the pages of Rand's journals, where we know more in hindsight than she knew at the time. An extraordinarily angry man who made anti-anger a virtue and legitimate rage a vice. Boorishly judgmental while damning judgmentalism as the world's worst sin. One of the great disarmers of the good.
No loss at all to anything decent.
http://www.solopassion.com/node/9985 This despite the fact that without him, few would know Objectivism even exists...he was the prime promo mover, not Rand...
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:01 pm
Kyrel invites North Korea to nuke USA:
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North Korea Declares on America
Submitted by Kyrel Zantonavitch on Thu, 2014-12-18 17:35 Does America have any pride or honor or self-respect? North Korea has, in effect, just declared war on the United States. The moment we discovered the true identities of the Sony computer mega-thieves, and the new-9/11 threateners, we should have bombed 5 of their movie studios and 50 of their movie theaters out of existence. Better yet, all of the dictatorial leadership's homes and offices should also have been destroyed, along with 10 of their best communist party headquarters, and all of their nuclear weapons facilities. There should be an immediate special White House screening and super-gala, featuring the movie The Interview, with all of the film's stars and makers. There should also be many government-sponsored movie shorts instantly created showing Kim Dung-un and company getting killed, tortured, raped, and humiliated beyond all endurance. North Korea should also be swamped with an ocean of extra-powerful offshore radio and t'v' broadcasts mocking and insulting communism, tyranny, the Great Leader, the Dear Leader, and the current noxious insect Fuhrer. That slave state should also be carpet-bombed with millions of computer memory sticks showing the whole movie which instigated this event, dubbed into Korean, plus the subtitled original version. It should end with a two-second clip of President Obama telling ultra-monster Kim Dung-un: "Go fuck yourself!" This is war. America should defend itself.
Submitted by Lindsay Perigo on Fri, 2015-01-09 07:34. Who said anything about immigration policy? You really must overcome your propensity for gnats' poo, Neil. But since you raise it, I'll say unequivocally—again—that the Brook/Binswanger open immigration policy is existentially insane; philosophically, it is rationalism on stilts. At all US borders there should be a sign that says, "No Muslims Allowed." Islamofilth already within America should be aggressively monitored by the agencies of government charged with protecting the liberty of US citizens, and incarcerated/deported whenever their Caliphatist agenda is unmasked. "Profiling" should be the proud, prolific and prodigious policy of the US government (and all Western governments). I keep saying, and no one seems to get it, that since the Muslims have declared war on the West, the West is fully entitled—nay, duty-bound—to reverse its usual norms (for which Islamofilth has no respect anyway) when it comes to Muslims; meaning: a Muslim is presumed guilty until proven innocent because he is a Muslim. No ifs, buts or maybes. When the filth call off their war, we can go back to business as usual.
It is nothing of the sort! It's a principled position, that's all! (Open immigration is not a floating concept. It is not divorced from reality.) And there is no fucking 'war against the West,' ya retard. If anything, you could say it's the other way around: Every day of the year, the West kills more Muslims in the Middle East, than were recently whacked in Paris. FigaroFatz's portrayal, truly belongs in a cartoonish paperback edition...
LOL, and to add insult to injury, he wants Western Governments to protect us, lolololol. That's those same Western Governments who also murder their own citizens every year and in greater numbers than the Muslims do!
FigaroFatz, go jerk off to your beloved Mario and STFU, seriously!
"That's Amore"
When Mario's prick hits your eye like a big cream pie That's amore When his cock seems to shine like you've had too much wine That's amore Bells will ring ting-a-ling-a-ling, ting-a-ling-a-ling And you'll sing "Mario's a fella" Hearts will play tippy-tippy-tay, tippy-tippy-ta Like a gay tarantula
When Mario's dick makes you drool just like a pasta fazool That's amore When you spread down the street with some cum at your feet You're in love When you wank in a dream but you know you're not Dreaming seniore Scuzza me, but you see, barebacking anally That's amore
PS. Memo to FigaroFatz: Border control is not going to solve the problem of terrorist attacks because it’s impossible for military services to control all radicals including those who are EU citizens, Peter Kirkham, former chief of Metropolitan police
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Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Sun Jan 11, 2015 3:18 am
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Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:04 pm
Memo to FigaroFatz: 'selective moral outrage' over massacre is disproportionate
..."Muslims do not need to be lectured about the sanctity of human life. We especially do not need to be lectured by the greatest criminals of the modern age." It included US President Barack Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu among the 'criminals'.
..."People are killed every day around the world in numbers and in circumstances that should put the events in France in perspective," it said. It served only to "devalue the countless more lives lost every other day", it said.
...The statement on Monday said its "hesitance to condemn" such attacks reflected its desire to "resist a vile, racist and narcissistic worldview that highlights and humanises European life but dehumanises and makes invisible non-European life".