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Subject: Hello all! Sun May 03, 2015 2:28 pm
I'm an ancap, and found these forums linked from 8chan's /liberty/ board in a discussion about the great, all knowing Molyneux :P
I'm influenced by Rand, Rothbard, both Friedmans, Hayek. I'm not a natural rights ancap, more of a Friedmanite in that respect (tbh I'm a moral subjectivists so I don't think any system, anarchist or otherwise, can be said to be objectively moral).
I'm majoring in economics with a minor in math at a regional state school in the Soouthern USA. Hopefully this forum will be interesting.
RR Phantom
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Subject: Re: Hello all! Sun May 03, 2015 6:10 pm
Have you read any Mises?
Quote :
I don't think any system, anarchist or otherwise, can be said to be objectively moral
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Do you have a link to that 8chan's /liberty/ board MolyFuck topic?
_________________ Anarcho-Capitalist, AnCaps Forum, Ancapolis,OZschwitz Contraband “The state calls its own violence law, but that of the individual, crime.”-- Max Stirner "Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the government officials committing it." -- Kurt Hofmann
wesri
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Subject: Re: Hello all! Mon May 04, 2015 11:47 am
Nemo, I don't think we're gonna settle ethics on an internet discussion board :P And I haven't read much Mises beyond some essays on Mises Institute and excerpts. His books look dense. I've read a couple of Rothbard's books, For A New Liberty and The Betrayal of the American Right. Rothbard is actually the writer who "converted" me back in middle school when I stumbled onto libertarianism and read FANL.
CovOps: I don't even remember, it was just a thread dissing ancaps because Moly is one, obviously posted by a troll, but someone linked this board as a place where ancaps had criticized the guy. And I'm always up for making fun of the nutcase :P.
Then there is this hate thread populated by actual Anarchists.
LOL, 'hate thread.' For the love of wisdom... _________________ Anarcho-Capitalist, AnCaps Forum, Ancapolis,OZschwitz Contraband “The state calls its own violence law, but that of the individual, crime.”-- Max Stirner "Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the government officials committing it." -- Kurt Hofmann
wesri
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Subject: Re: Hello all! Tue May 05, 2015 3:37 pm
CovOps wrote:
Quote :
I don't think we're gonna settle ethics on an internet discussion board
I'm surprised by your statement, in light of you having been exposed to Rand.
Our in-house reeducation camps are a delight, you'll love them...
;)
I love Rand's novels and such and she really made an impact (especially on my religious views) but, after giving it a lot of thought, I'm a thorough-going subjectivist morally. Although I'm also agnostic on the subject, there could be objective morals but I haven't seen them. :P
there could be objective morals but I haven't seen them
LOL, keep learning, you'll get there... _________________ Anarcho-Capitalist, AnCaps Forum, Ancapolis,OZschwitz Contraband “The state calls its own violence law, but that of the individual, crime.”-- Max Stirner "Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the government officials committing it." -- Kurt Hofmann
RR Phantom
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Subject: Re: Hello all! Tue May 05, 2015 6:43 pm
wesri wrote:
...there could be objective morals but I haven't seen them.
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wesri
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Subject: Re: Hello all! Tue May 05, 2015 11:49 pm
Nemo wrote:
wesri wrote:
...there could be objective morals but I haven't seen them.
If you were thirsty and offered a glass of hydrochloric acid, would you drink it?
No.
RR Phantom
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Subject: Re: Hello all! Wed May 06, 2015 12:26 am
wesri wrote:
Nemo wrote:
wesri wrote:
...there could be objective morals but I haven't seen them.
If you were thirsty and offered a glass of hydrochloric acid, would you drink it?
No.
Is that an arbitrary decision, or a reasoned one based on facts? If the latter, do tell why you think that's not an instance of objective morality. _________________ Anarcho Capitalists Retail , OZschwitz Downunder BoutiqueAnarcho-Capitalists,AnCaps Forum,Anti-State,Anti-Statist,Inalienable Rights Defenders,Non-Aggression Principle,Non-Initiation of Force Principle,Rothbardians,Anarchist,Capitalist,objectivism,Ayn Rand,Anarcho-Capitalism,Anarcho-Capitalist,politics,libertarianism,Ancap Forum,Anarchist Forum,Vulgar Libertarians,Hippies of The Right,Forum for Anarcho-Capitalist,Forum for Anarcho-Capitalists,Forum for AnCap,Forum for AnCaps,Libertarian,Anarcho-Objectivist,Freedom, Laissez Faire, Free Trade, Black Market, Randroid, Randroids, Rothbardian, AynArchist, Anarcho-Capitalist Forum, Anarchism, Anarchy, Free Market Anarchism, Free Market Anarchy, Market Anarchy