Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:04 pm
_________________ Anarcho-Capitalist, AnCaps Forum, Ancapolis,OZschwitz Contraband “The state calls its own violence law, but that of the individual, crime.”-- Max Stirner "Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the government officials committing it." -- Kurt Hofmann
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:15 am
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Eventually Doug Bandler’s irrationality and your rationalizations of it have consequences otherwise SOLO will just be a low class rag promoting racism, misogyny, and paranoia.
Say what you will, Lindsay, it's not even worth arguing with you. Fear not, I won't be coming back. As one person put it, it's not just the racism here, it's the toxicity. It's become just as toxic as the filth you rail against. I'll leave you to your sewage.
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:37 am
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Submitted by Doug Bandler on Thu, 2012-12-13 04:25.
The responses here prove my point that most Objectivists have their minds effectively closed to many issues outside basic economics and "social liberalism". Mention race or Islam or the problems with modern women and you must be a "collectivist" or a "racist" or a "misogynist". Some group of independent minded thinkers.
There are more things on heaven and earth Mr. Quintana then are dreamt of in your philosophy.
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Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:34 am
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Submitted by Kyrel Zantonavitch on Sun, 2012-12-16 16:27
By my reckoning, the world has been in a philosophical and cultural Renaissance since about the 1980s. And, yes, that also includes the ascent of the truly powerful neo-liberal ideologies of libertarianism and Objectivism. So life on this planet has gotten decidedly better in recent decades!
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:05 am
How's this for a bit of nonsense from a randroid:
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Dormin111
Posted 13 November 2012 - 10:27 PM
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According to Rothbard: 1. The first political right of man is the right to private property, AKA self-ownership. Man has the right to engage in economic transactions with his own property, which originates from his own body and the labor it puts into his environment.
2. Man can then use this right to purchase his rights to life and liberty from other individuals on the market. Overall, the market will produce optimal conditions of for liberty which individuals will voluntarily opt into.
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:22 am
Or this floozie, through whose statements, one could drive a truckload worth of objective objections...
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JMeganSnow
Posted 18 November 2012 - 10:46 PM
It's been my personal experience with anarcho-capitalists that their political philosophy contains no functional framework for justice whatsoever. They have some floating abstractions that are not tied in any way whatsoever to the ways people actually interact in the real world. Their ideas about the function of government boil down to some badly oversimplified statements. In the mind of an anarcho-capitalist, you get a progression very much like the following:
1. Force in human relationships is bad. (This is sometimes restated as "the non-aggression principle".) 2. Government is force. 3. Therefore government is bad. 4. But it's a necessary evil. 5. So, can we construct some kind of non-force government? We can have a non-force economy by letting the market work, i.e. Capitalism. How about we apply this to government? People can shop for government like they shop for shoes, and if they don't like one, they can switch to another one. They can vote with their feet!
And that's about as sophisticated as it gets, granted with a great deal more verbiage involved. There's no reference to justice, and for good reason--because this type of "government" would utterly prevent the exercise of justice in human relationships. For example, today, I feel like taking my neighbor's stuff, but this government won't let me. So I join another government that will. What mechanism would prevent this?
Governments cannot compete on the free market because the existence of a free market presupposes the existence of a government that protects property rights. Anarcho-capitalism isn't based on reason or logic, but on an emotional feeling that all government is dangerous and unstable (which is true) and that correcting a government gone wrong often involves terrible bloodshed, misery, and destruction. So the anarcho-capitalists are looking for a shortcut to keep government on a leash, one they think will operate automatically the way the free market does over the long term. Since they grasp some concepts of capitalism, particularly the idea that the functions of a market serve to keep businesses in check without government control or regulation over the economy, they try to go backwards and apply this principle to government itself. They don't understand that it is the government's removal of force from the relationships that make up the "market" that allows business relationships to be self-regulating in this fashion. You can't remove force from government, though, because government *is* force. The proper term for competing governments is not "anarcho-capitalism" but "gang warfare".
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Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:34 pm
Fatz, attacking people who supply the entertainment market with what it wants...
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Private enterprise television executives are among the lowest of the filth contributing to the collapse of the culture, for one thing.... they are guilty of crimes against humanity and should be comprehensively shamed and repudiated.
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Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:41 pm
Same link as above, Bandler...
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it shouldn't be surprising that not only was Lanza's mom a nut but she was an ANARCHIST. Gee, including them in libertarian's big tent has really helped hasn't it?
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Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Mon Dec 17, 2012 7:17 pm
Nemo wrote:
Same link as above, Bandler...
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it shouldn't be surprising that not only was Lanza's mom a nut but she was an ANARCHIST. Gee, including them in libertarian's big tent has really helped hasn't it?
Stupid fucks! If the mother is an anarchist (of the right) she'd be against initiation of force. Had her son followed in her footsteps, he never would have done what he had. The kid in fact, acted as a typical statist! (Something randroids support.)
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A statist is a man who believes that some men have the right to force, coerce, enslave, rob, and murder others.
Ayn Rand
_________________ Anarcho-Capitalist, AnCaps Forum, Ancapolis,OZschwitz Contraband “The state calls its own violence law, but that of the individual, crime.”-- Max Stirner "Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the government officials committing it." -- Kurt Hofmann
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:47 am
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Unleashed Hypergamy
Submitted by Doug Bandler on Fri, 2012-12-21 13:06.
But I do not that the Ke$ha song turns my stomach even though girls love to have sex to that song. What I'm saying is that there is a dark side to human sexuality which has been unleashed by sexual freedom. Objectivists don't ever acknowledge that, which is kind of funny being that I have met 4 Objectivist men who have been cheated on by their wives.
Man worship? Or Alpha worship? Big difference. Remember, poor Eddie Wilers got no play. He couldn't even get a girl in the 1950s. Rand tortured that poor character. Even she had no mercy for beta males.
_________________ Anarcho-Capitalist, AnCaps Forum, Ancapolis,OZschwitz Contraband “The state calls its own violence law, but that of the individual, crime.”-- Max Stirner "Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the government officials committing it." -- Kurt Hofmann
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:06 am
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Well...
Submitted by Olivia on Thu, 2012-12-20 10:04.
LBE (Olivia) has a voracious appetite for sex ... with someone who embodies her values.
... with someone who embodies a large portion of her values. When there's a breach, I find fierce abuse and witholding sex as effective as the next goddess.
If she tried that shit on me, there would definitely be no sex again... EVER! _________________ Anarcho-Capitalist, AnCaps Forum, Ancapolis,OZschwitz Contraband “The state calls its own violence law, but that of the individual, crime.”-- Max Stirner "Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the government officials committing it." -- Kurt Hofmann
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:29 pm
In a thread titled Jeezy! It's Enough to Make One a Goblian (AKA Merry Xmas!), Goode posts:
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Merry Christmas everyone. :-)
Submitted by Richard Goode on Mon, 2012-12-24 09:20.
To which fatz replies with:
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Submitted by Lindsay Perigo on Mon, 2012-12-24 10:04.
Would it be too much to ask that you refrain from hijacking one of my threads on my site with your sub-human filth just this once? I know you don't respect property rights, or other folks' hospitality, or music, but is it necessary to advertise the fact so brazenly?
I'll leave this sub-trash up as testament to what and whom decency and civilized values generally are up against. Filth.
He's forever emphasizing how he is 'leaving posts up,' as a supposed 'testament,' to self-incriminating 'filth' and the like...
Those pretty, shiny lights, must truly be evil. And don't you readers forget it, either!
His site, his property, his hospitality, etc... he's forever pointlessly reiterating the same self-evident banalities and in way too many threads.
Imagine for a moment going to his dinner party... as everyone is say, sitting around the dining table, eating, drinking, chatting, he routinely sputters: "That's my salt and pepper which you are using..." and "these premises belong to me also..." and "don't forget that the crockery and cutlery you are using are mine too..." etc... I dare say, that few people would be back, for a second party with such a bizarre host... but hey, that's RandRoidism for ya... simply absurd! Especially in light of the fact that his site is open to the public at large and one which pretty much anyone can join... and that includes people who have different values... giving fatz of course endless opportunities to remind people, of who the real boss is around there, especially if you don't show sufficiently high 'respect.'
The mini-dictator gets worse, when confronted with people which seriously stand up to him toe to toe or even eclipse him, then he bans them, ie. Billy Beck, et al. Consequently, his site is full of leftover-brown-nosing-conformist-lapdogs and with little of any diversity, originality or uniqueness, no matter the topic... fatz hates bona fide competition and he intends to remain, the one and only, top dog. Shame on the power-lusting, non-motherfucker!
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Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:47 pm
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Those pretty, shiny lights, must truly be evil.
I took it he was referring to the sound track. _________________ Anarcho Capitalists Retail , OZschwitz Downunder BoutiqueAnarcho-Capitalists,AnCaps Forum,Anti-State,Anti-Statist,Inalienable Rights Defenders,Non-Aggression Principle,Non-Initiation of Force Principle,Rothbardians,Anarchist,Capitalist,objectivism,Ayn Rand,Anarcho-Capitalism,Anarcho-Capitalist,politics,libertarianism,Ancap Forum,Anarchist Forum,Vulgar Libertarians,Hippies of The Right,Forum for Anarcho-Capitalist,Forum for Anarcho-Capitalists,Forum for AnCap,Forum for AnCaps,Libertarian,Anarcho-Objectivist,Freedom, Laissez Faire, Free Trade, Black Market, Randroid, Randroids, Rothbardian, AynArchist, Anarcho-Capitalist Forum, Anarchism, Anarchy, Free Market Anarchism, Free Market Anarchy, Market Anarchy
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:02 pm
Even so, my points stand.
He's in a time-warp... reminds me of adults in the '50s and '60s that attacked the younger generation's Rock & Roll... you see, that was 'sub-filth' too...
It's a never ending, generational rinse & repeat...
Yawn... _________________ Anarcho-Capitalist, AnCaps Forum, Ancapolis,OZschwitz Contraband “The state calls its own violence law, but that of the individual, crime.”-- Max Stirner "Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the government officials committing it." -- Kurt Hofmann
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Wed Dec 26, 2012 4:41 am
LOLOLOLOL! Doug is just a gift, that keeps on giving... PRICELESS!
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The Origins of Christianity
Submitted by Doug Bandler on Wed, 2012-12-26 01:55
...especially the ones that deal with St. Paul and his contribution to Christian morality. He really is the one who injected self-sacrifice and self-immolation into the Western world to a greater extent than anyone before him. He has probably influenced history more than any other person.
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:24 am
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History Of Liberalism
Submitted by Kyrel Zantonavitch on Wed, 2013-01-02 02:20
...Rand converted from fiction to philosophy from the late 1950s to the late 1970s. She was by far the most liberal thinker in the history of man. She created the philosophy of Objectivism.
Sadly, however, Rand undercut her liberal ideology with a heavy atmosphere and subtext of cultism and religiosity in her propaganda movement. This was understandable, considering how revolutionary and hated her philosophy was, but hardly rational.
However Rand died in 1982 and a highly rational and non-religious organization organized around her discoveries emerged in 1989. This brought the world Objectivism as a thought-system, not a belief-system; and Objectivism as a rational, benevolent, effective philosophy -- not an irrational, malicious, weird cult.
Pure liberalism -- a pure, clean, complete comprehension that reason was 100% right in epistemology, individualism was 100% right in ethics, and freedom was 100% right in politics -- began in the early 21st century. Randroid illiberalism began to die out. A New Enlightenment is about to begin.
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Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:02 pm
Michael Marotta against the right to discriminate:
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A thousand years ago, in the summer of 1969, I had a political philosophy professor who was a socialist. When I mindlessly repeated the mantra that a business has a right to discriminate. He asked, "Because a man's home is his castle?" I said yes. He pointed out that castles are medieval structures and that a businesse's Welcome mat is an open contract with the public.Sold.
The claim that a business has a right to discriminate is rooted in an earlier time when the shop and the home were one structure with the store open to the street and the living quarters in back or on top. "A man's home is his castle" is an aphorism from a time of looting and hoarding, when might made right. The modern retail emporium was created in the 19th century, from Alexander Turney Stewart to Aaron Montgomery Ward. This was when the ethics of business changed from "Caveat emptor" to "The customer is always right." No longer an armed lord behind a castle wall, the merchant's "Welcome" mat became an open contract with the public.
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand's Statist, Randroid Idiots: Out of the mouths of 'Objectivists' Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:23 pm
What don't you get?
And what does he mean by:
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...the merchant's "Welcome" mat became an open contract with the public.
Open contract? WTF?
His whole post is nonsense. Irrelevant.
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