Subject: Re: U.S. soldier throws puppy off cliff Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:52 pm
I haven't got the stomach to go there... but may the soldier get rabies and suffer a mad, slow, painful death!
andrergsanchez
Subject: Re: U.S. soldier throws puppy off cliff Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:52 am
Animals are to be eaten. To be calling for his death simply for having killed an animal is... anti-freedom, anti-capitalism, anti-life.
RR Phantom
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Subject: Re: U.S. soldier throws puppy off cliff Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:17 pm
andrergsanchez wrote:
Animals are to be eaten. To be calling for his death simply for having killed an animal is... anti-freedom, anti-capitalism, anti-life.
He didn't eat it, he Killed it for fun which is supremely anti-life.
PS. I don't actually want him dead for that, but for his willingness to murder innocent people when ordered to. i.e. because he is evil. We have a whole forum dedicated to celebrating the demise of these pieces of filth, see here.
andrergsanchez
Subject: Re: U.S. soldier throws puppy off cliff Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:42 pm
It is interesting that you seem to see american soldiers as evil, yet seem to have no problem with say, Hamas, or Hezbollah, or iraqi insurgents.
RR Phantom
Location : Wasted Space Job/hobbies : Cayman Islands Actuary
Subject: Re: U.S. soldier throws puppy off cliff Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:50 pm
Anyone prepared to kill innocent people on orders is evil.
Subject: Re: U.S. soldier throws puppy off cliff Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:34 am
Update:
Puppy-toss video makes Marine figure of hate
A US Marine has become the target of a massive internet hate campaign after a mobile phone video appearing to show him throwing a puppy off a cliff in Iraq became a viral hit.
Some 150,000 people watched the video in less than two days before it was taken down from the YouTube website this morning. More than 4,000 posted comments, overwhelmingly negative, although many questioned whether the dog was already dead.
The low-quality video shows two Marines in combat joking as one holds up what appears to be a motionless black and white puppy, which he then hurls into a rocky gully. A loud yelping sound is heard as it flies through the air.
Major Chris Perrine of the Marine Corps Base Hawaii says it appears the man is based with a unit in the islands. In a statement the Marines called the video "shocking and deplorable" and said it violates "the high standard we expect of every Marine".
“We do not tolerate this type of behaviour and will take appropriate action,” the statement added.
The video is both blurred and shaky and it's virtually impossible to tell whether the puppy is alive or dead as it is held by the scruff of the neck by a Marine who shows it to the camera.
“Cute little puppy, huh?” the man says, smiling.
“Aww so cute, so cute, little puppy,” one of his comrade says.
“Uh, uh, uh, I tripped,” the man says before turning and throwing something into the air.
From offscreen, a man says “That’s mean. That’s mean, Motari.”
A number of US websites named the perpetrator as David Motari, a 22-year-old from Washington state who has recently returned from Iraq and is based in Hawaii. Mr Motari's profile on the social networking site Bebo was closed down yesterday.
Some sites posted his personal details, phone numbers and even a picture of his car, while other bloggers called for him to be ostracised. Others said that the video was simply bringing home the horrors of the Iraq war.
"If David Motari is the puppy killer, he is undoubtedly a sociopath who does not feel remorse or shame," wrote Mike on the Crime and Federalism weblog.
"After confirming him as the puppy killer, we must engage in an online campaign to ensure that everyone who does business with or associates with him is warned. The puppy had no choice; humans, through education, will."
Mr Motari's local newspaper, the Herald, reported that it had shown the video to veterinarians at Washington State University, but they could not confirm whether it was genuine or not.
"If this is something legitimate, it's one of the most egregious acts of animal cruelty I have ever seen, if not the most," said Dr Matt Mickas, chief of Community Practice Services at the university's veterinary college.
But Dr Mickas said that the video did not appear fake to him because of the way the animal went slack by being held from the neck.
"To me, the sound on the YouTube clip sounded like a puppy in distress - the same sound we hear when the puppies come into the hospital," he said.
Subject: Re: U.S. soldier throws puppy off cliff Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:34 am
andrergsanchez wrote:
It is interesting that you seem to see american soldiers as evil, yet seem to have no problem with say, Hamas, or Hezbollah, or iraqi insurgents.
All soldiers working for the state are evil, period! For christ's sake, they are in the employ of the most destructive and bloodthirsty institution that ever existed on this planet! They are their final defense!!! And you're surprised we ANCAPS consider them evil??? WTF??? Look, you need to reassess your knowledge bank and bring it up to date... disabuse yourself of these romanticized notion of the US government... as well as its soldiers...
As for Hamas VS US Govt in the evil stakes... don't even go there... it's like comparing a boy scout to a fucking serial killer... one kicks off a few inaccurate rockets... the other wipes out whole countries and/or their governments... jeezus!!!
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Subject: Re: U.S. soldier throws puppy off cliff Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:44 am
Good news: David Motari Alleged Puppy Killer Tracked Down
It didn’t take long for internet sleuths to track down the perp. David Motari, the Marine accused of pitching a puppy off a cliff for the sheer psychopathic fun of it, is a member of the Bebo social network. Although the network requires registration to view member profiles, an enterprising researcher was able to login and screen capture Motari’s profile.
Motari is a Lance corporal, 1st Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment, stationed at Haqlaniyah, Iraq, and based out of the Marine Corps Base at Kaneohe, Hawaii. He is from Seattle, Washington.
“Don’t have to follow nobodies (sic) footsteps,” writes the Marine on his Bebo profile. “I’m makin my own, fully grown, and this life is my own.” Motari tells us he is “happiest when… Chillin out, sleeping, playing sport, hittin the gym, hangin with friends, with my family, at home, fridays, eating, running, cruisin, and defintely (sic) when I get out of the marine corps!” He forgot to add he is especially happy when emulating Jeffrey Dahmer, who also shared a penchant for torturing and killing small defenseless animals.
“There is no way to know for sure if the puppy is real or not unless you are the one who produced it,” explains Charlie Powell, College of Veterinary Medicine, Washington State University.
However, after watching the video on YouTube, it certainly appears the puppy was alive prior to Motari’s sadistic stunt.
Subject: Re: U.S. soldier throws puppy off cliff Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:51 pm
CovOps wrote:
andrergsanchez wrote:
Animals are to be eaten. To be calling for his death simply for having killed an animal is... anti-freedom, anti-capitalism, anti-life.
Don't make me laugh... Or as Peikoff once said about a similar animal issue: Any person that did that (what that soldier did) is sick, really sick!
That may be. But the fact remains, you cannot complain, or more importantly, you cannot punish people, for how they treat food. Consistency requires that all those who favour animal rights to any degree, be vegetarians.
andrergsanchez
Subject: Re: U.S. soldier throws puppy off cliff Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:56 pm
Quote :
All soldiers working for the state are evil, period! For christ's sake, they are in the employ of the most destructive and bloodthirsty institution that ever existed on this planet! They are their final defense!!!
No.
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And you're surprised we ANCAPS consider them evil??? WTF??? Look, you need to reassess your knowledge bank and bring it up to date... disabuse yourself of these romanticized notion of the US government... as well as its soldiers...
I have no romanticized notion of the US government or its soldiers.
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As for Hamas VS US Govt in the evil stakes... don't even go there... it's like comparing a boy scout to a fucking serial killer... one kicks off a few inaccurate rockets... the other wipes out whole countries and/or their governments... jeezus!!!
Fuck... are you completely retarded? Which "whole country" did the US Govt wipe out? Are you aware that Hamas has the stated goal of wiping out a whole country? As does Hezbollah?
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